Melinda Schmidt joins me again and so does my son John Lustrea. John recently defended his thesis at University of South Carolina and received his Masters in Public History. He is getting married at the end of June and paid us a visit for one last time as a single guy!

We talked about what each of us is reading and discussed quotes from a couple of those books. As usual, the conversation took several turns and went deeper!

Here are the links we mentioned on the podcast:

• Becoming Wise, Krista Tippett
• The Soul of a Pilgrim, Christine Valters Paintner,
• The Language of Letting Go Journal, Melody Beattie
• We also mentioned I John 4:7-12 and Luke 15:11-32.